Im sorry to say that the originator of this article is wrong when they say those long snout frenchies are pure bred. Notice I didn't say "tiny bent legs" like a saucisse" dog. Save the purebred pedigree line? How is that fair?! Because the only difference between a french bulldog and an apbt from the ADBA is nose lengthHonestly, if you really think that, then neither breed is for you tbh. Even though they're JRTs to position themselves they don't launch into aggressive frenzied assaults on one another. How about they just look at terriers instead of making mixed dogs that only a handful of people will adopt? Might not be, but it's far more older than stated 5 years. Whether this is objectively true or not is another story-- wolves are capable killers of large game with scissors bites, so I kind of doubt there's any functional advantage to having an underbite.Be that as it may, all dog lover's today rightly reject bull-baiting and dogfighting as inhumane and immoral, so why are we continuing to perpetuate this trait? We should be looking abroad for some of our beautiful breeds that have not been totally ruined by show breeders! So, even though it will only affect a few dogs short term, it will benefit the breed as a whole in the long run. We saw 'British' dog breeds everywhere (they obviously love dogs) but the were the shapes of dogs I used to see when I was much younger - NOT what we see now being dragged around Crufts. Over 60 years ago we owned a large Pekinese - not the minute, over-hairy, ultra-flat-nosed scrap with popping eyes that we see now which can barely breathe, let alone walk. This article was published by a breeder that is pushing its long snout agenda for people to look at. But in an attempt to promote healthier breeding, the UK Kennel Club has updated the standard for Frenchies. He raved about his muzzle length and how he is excited to see how his health holds up over the years versus the shorter muzzle shorter back dogs that he sees most often. I've been wanting to make one of Bull Terriers. Its breeders like you that take it to the extreme and want to abolish the standard for your personal views. There is now a separate registry for the old-type Morgan: shorter, more versatile, good disposition, and holding to the old standard. Sixty used to be considered old; now many would consider it "middle-aged".TL;DR: If dogs of your favored breed are dying at an age at which the average pet mutt of the same size would be expected to still be going strong, then they're NOT dying of "old age". The French bulldog is ranked the second most prevalent purebred pups type in the United States as well as the UK, and is a favorite among celebrities. Would love to know of some US breeders set on improving the health of brachy breeds like Bostons and Frenchies. At least you're working on a way forward for the breed. ~An arbitrary vision of what the dog should look like is someones fantasy of what it should look like as set in the standard. Earlier this year, two of Lady Gagas own Frenchies, Gustav and Koji, were stolen in a violent heist that left her dog walker with a bullet in his chest. We've received your submission. There is a fine line where people will breed for health and keep the look of the breed and just avoiding the look and breeding completely for health. Sadly your dogs will be the ones extinct and in shelters if you keep breeding that messy mix. As veterinary science uses more and more high tech tools, more of these problems will come to light. My dogs in fact use my lap as a running spring board to lunch themselves at the ceiling to try and catch gheckos. Thank you for this useful article. It seems to me that such owners would be proud of their dogs health and longevity, not to mention their own good care.I should also point out that no one actually dies of "old age". Yaras info is already linked in the OP. You KNOW, you know that you have to provide DNA tests to be registered by the AKC, so let that GO. However surely now that they have been made aware of what was/is going on, in the loving memory of their beloved Mopsies and Pugsleys, they would strive for a healthier breed. I own a blue female who is three and she is perfection! He looks just like Flint and we love him.You can see more of him on his IGhttps://www.instagram.com/frenchbulldogyorkie/. I used to work for a vet that bred Himalayan's and she, too, was breeding for healthier cats. In March last year, the footage of the best of breed German Shepherd (above) scurrying bent-backed and stressed round the big ring at Cr 1915 This is what a Bull Terrier looked like 100 years ago - a fit and functional, well-balanced and in-proportion dog. I have a 4 month old Frenchie male I got about 6 weeks ago. They are dogs and deserve our unconditional love without being judged.You can check us at frenchieholics.com we have interesting articles and products dedicated to this lovely breed French Bulldog. Many people that have/had frenchies and learned after they owned them how sick they can get. It's great that Flint and his relatives have a longer muzzle. For many years, French Bulldogs with flat faces and pinched nostrils have won awards at dog shows, which encourages other people to buy similar dogs. A good healthy Frenchie is a joy and we need to make sure we keep to the objective of improving the gene pool and not, as some have previously said, simply do away with the breed entirely. So, the UK Kennel Club is encouraging dog breeders to avoid exaggerated features on French Bulldogs from now on. If the shoe fits:). , Mans About To Return Shelter Dog When He Reads Previous Owners Note. ONE MORE TIME FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK: if a dog cannot procreate without human help (as many toy breeds have become) IT WOULD NOT SURVIVE WITHOUT YOU. Lady Gaga, Chrissy Teigen and John Legend, David and Victoria Beckham, Dwayne Johnson, Reese Witherspoon, Cara Delevigne and Hugh Jackman, to name just a few, have all opened their homes and hearts to the furry pets. Just a sturdier dog overall. These long nose frenchies are for the non akc showing people. His full story is on this blog. Dogs are canids, after all and need long muzzles, but it is an improvement.I also continue to be disappointed that people persist in breeding for the bobtail, which is a congenital absence or shortness of the tail. It's also like you're saying that the specific dogs you've loved should never have existed in the first place, because if different dogs had been used for the breeding program, then YOUR Mopsi or Pugsley would have never existed in the first place. Nevertheless, I assume that even thought data is not perfect, it truly helps to compare lifespans between different breeds. And this is a famous French Bulldog from 1925. Yara and Miro are both 100% Frenchie and have the DNA results to prove it and the same goes with the puppies. The show ring always rewards the current fashion; I prefer to own the healthy, useful horse that is a pleasure to be around and can enjoy a long life.Taking any genetics to an extreme using a limited gene pool will lead to problems. The risk of breathing problems is greatly reduced if a dogs muzzle is at least 1/3 the length of their head. Thus whether a dog dies upon impact or lingers a few days at the vet's, you can clearly identify that "being hit by a car" was the cause of death. The pandemic pet boom has since prompted widespread scams and countless pet thefts particularly for the beloved French bulldog. Dont be so quick to judge. There was no aesthetic improvement involved; she just wanted freedom from pain. Your complete disregard for the quality of life of your pet while you center your own memories of "fluffy" is pretty reprehensible. "Finnish KC's database documents an average age of death of just five years old. Those studs were not "purebreds" until they were documented as foundation sires. That would make their memories less stressful knowing they are doing something good for the breed. It was biased all along. Only my own observations, knowing the individuals within my own breed and keeping a close eye which of them are reported to be dead (in breed groups vs. FCK database). http://www.cavalierhealth.org/sm2.htm#Chiari-like_malformation_is_found_in_100%_of_1,020_cavaliers_in_Belgium_and_the_Netherlands_and_syringomyelia_in_39Crossbreeding looks the only way forward for the Cavalier. Bad example. Talking about loss of "breed type" - french bulldogs didn't look like arnie when they were first created, they looked far more like flint. Are we breeding for the health and longevity of an animal or the vanity, pleasure and entertainment of humans? This is not about eliminating purebred dogs or the "mongrelization" of all dogs (as if there is something wrong with mutts in the first place). From the makers of Pedigree Dogs Exposed, the latest news and views regarding inherited disorders and conformation issues in purebred dogs. The AKC standards are absolute DOG SHITE. UK Kennel Club officials are hoping to encourage more breeders to focus on the health of their dogs rather than whats trending. Look at pictures of dogs from 100 years ago and they have the longer snouts. His mother and father mated naturally and one puppy was whelped naturally before Yara had to go in for a C-Section. Its no wonder, as the Frenchie is known for its energetic, affectionate and adaptable nature. Skip recommended stories carousel and go to main content. Anyone know of any breeders similar to Hawbucks here in the states? Poor dog! The Lippincott Morgan registry is trying to maintain the original Morgan Horse genetics. And this dog, a slight improvement, won BOB this year. Also when dog dies out of old age, it's not so common to report them. God its so embarrassing to see so many people in these comments trying their very hardest to stretch and jump to the worst conclusions possible, and to make the worst possible excuses as to why they support breeding dogs like poor Arnie. It involves modifying a bloodline that has been developing for years. We plan to breed her this winter, and again we found a male with longer muzzle and longer legs.We LOVE the frenchie mind and temprament, but I will not support or breed dogs that are so stunted that they cant even play for more than a few minutes.Our younger girl loves to run at our fence line with the neighbors Labrador - and she wins every time!!! When I purchased my Frenchie, I wanted a dog with a longer muzzle and a little less square. Make a stand. "Now stating this, you should also mention that this is purely based on what the owners have reported. The only certainty is that he was not a purebred Morgan!Over the years, horse fashions changed. Both purebred." Dog Hides In UPS Truck And Rides All Over Town, Wearing Note With An Important Message For All, Officer Adopts Distressed Dog Stranded In Hot Car For Hours, 80 Neglected, Traumatized Dogs Discovered In Condemned House, Stick Lodged Inside Dogs Neck Goes Unnoticed By Vets For 6 Weeks, Pet Lovers Rejoice As New York Gets Closer To Banning Puppy Stores, I just put down my dog. So leave the flaws there to breed even more problems? What Flint looks like is an old style Frenchie before the muzzle was bred off them.Pit bulls, for one, have more terrier like muzzles. Our Frenchie is very like photos 4 and 5 and when we've put pictures on Facebook there have been comments about him not being a 'true' Frenchie and we have to explain that the longer muzzle is actually the way the breed is meant to be, not these flat faced mutants that can't breathe, let alone run and play football. My sister underwent costly jaw surgery and years of braces to correct her underbite as an adult, just for this reason. In contrast, aging is a gradual event, with an ultimately subjective "finish line". He was a lion by name and a lion by nature and always won dog fights by biting the opposers underbelly and would have defended us to the death should anyone try to harm us! Typy is the synonym for grotesquely deformed.Do or die, eventually those that resist will go extinct along with their long suffering dogs. Oh, sure other puppies would have been born in this alternate timeline, with different looks but equally lovable temperaments but none of them would have been YOUR cherished Shuggie or Rascal.On a visceral level, it feels like breed reform advocates are trying to retroactively rip these much-loved pooches from your memories-- and your heart. They are both beautiful animals, but I prefer good disposition and versatility over show ring flash. Health and lack of exaggeration, without the loss of breed type. They look more pitbull-like, and that's a very good thing. The way you are talking, breeders are just in it for the money. These are indicators that the breed itself has become a mockery of what it once was. The standard even calls for a wedge shape. I was just wondering the same thing too! No, this isn't logical, but very little about our relationships with our pets is. Arnie's dog does indeed seem photoshoped or deformed.. 2022 NYP Holdings, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Ear cropping is still desired in many breeds and legal in many places. The dog on the left is Arnie - a former AKC show-dog. Where is a long snipey muzzle? I have been crossbreeding Cavaliers (Your documentary opened my eyes) now for 8 years. Note in particu A Bulldog called Thor has just won the National Dog Show in the USA. I have a purebred male Frenchie with a longer nose and has a longer tail. Indeed, the pedigreed pups popularity has launched a lucrative black market trade, earning fraudulent sellers potentially $1,500 to $5,000 per dog, according to American Kennel Club. If you think these dogs look like pitbulls, you wouldn't know a pitbull if it bit you on the foot. The updated version emphasizes the importance of avoiding extreme features on these little dogs. This story has been shared 102,149 times. We hope these amends send a strong message about the importance of ensuring that the puppy that you buy does not have exaggerated features, said Lambert. There's never enough space for all of them so as they drop off they slide off onto the cushions bellow. if we abandoned this domesticated dog breed and left it to survive in the wild THEY WOULD DIE OUT. This story has been shared 110,486 times. I love Purebred Dogs but i like the one on the right more. Aging does make you more vulnerable to a long list of medical conditions, but so does breeding for unhealthy conformations in a small gene pool. He was long legged and what used to be called a 'Lion Peke' with a nose more like the right hand Frenchie above. Your poor beloved pets :(, We adopted our dog salsa mix of french bulldog with yorkie. Do you if there is a Pug breeder with the same aims? After all, dogs are members of the family, not objects. That argument on it's own basis is invalid, you aren't getting anywhere there. There is veru little that is right in a frenchie DAWF BREEDwhy not just eliminate him and the english and everyone breed sibs onlyFrenchie have never had a nuzzle like FLINT ..Flint looks like he could even have an even or scissors bite but I guess that is better for eating. Two other puppies from the litter. Same here. He looks exactly like a purebred french bulldog with a longer muzzle than average - which is exactly what he is. It takes outsiders to notice how badly things were going wrong, but now slowly the fans of the breed will come around, I'm sure. That is where the sweet spot lies. For fit for purpose, longer and better lifestyle not a short life riddled with problem after problem. They are French Bulldog that can breath easier and have a healthier life. Great initiative! Please don't do the whole whataboutism. Let's just put it as it is - Arnie is a cripple. Multiple organ failure can also occur as the result of prolonged physiological stress from cancer, genetic diseases, or brachycephalic syndrome, at a far earlier age than randombred dogs of the same size. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Why aren't the health tests and dna test also published wi. If it were considered popular to cut off dog's ears because people suddenly found it to look endearing, would you agree with that, or would it put the animal through unnecessary pain just because someone decided it looked pretty? All breeders breed for that perfect akc standard specimen. Im in Texas. Theyre health is more important than the look doesnt matter if they werent bred to play football. Of course, not all French Bulldogs have breathing problems, but with squished faces, theyre much more likely to than dogs with long snouts. There are plenty of people in this thread that say they would prefer a frenchie with a longer snout. A few years back we toured Canada in one of their huge mobile homes. Great job! According to the Humane Society Veterinary Medical Association (HSVMA), flat-faced dogs such as French bulldogs, pugs and other bulldog types, may suffer from obstructive airway syndrome and other respiratory disorders, inhibiting their ability to breathe normally, and could lead to a number of other health concerns including obesity due to lack of exercise and trouble breathing poor thermoregulation leading to overheating, frequent vomiting and regurgitation and a shortened lifespan. All I see are short muzzled dogs. In case you haven't seen my previous comment his info is here. No. longer snout and a bit longer legs like the 1900's frenchies. These dogs are not meant for heavy activities just like the English bulldog. But many Frenchie lovers are surprised to discover that the breed didnt always look this way. He does have a little wrinkling around his nose and eyes but Im sure will change plenty in the next year. When the dog is a crippled mess?! However, experts believe that these new regulations will have a big influence long-term. I am told he looks more like the Frenchies that were bread in Europe back in the late 1800s early 1900s. Go to any French bulldog gathering and watch the goings on. Absolutely! The Morgan Horse Registry was eventually founded and standards were established, to keep the short, slightly stocky, very versatile horses coming. Jane Howarth. Less health issues as well. Either way, they're handsome little imps and I want one! And my female has a longer muzzle as the UK strain, I love them both & they are both very different dogs. All of us-- humans as well as animals-- die because something killed us, whether it's being hit by a car, or liver failure. He looks more like Flint but is a Cream and Fawn color. Thank you for posting these photos. Why isn't nobody changing the look of the pug? This is why people that breed pit bulls are laughing at you. People want fancy French house lap dogs but also want them to have the mobility of a Labrador. Im so glad that my frenchie looks like the moderate ones. Now I understand this article. You can read ALL about it on her page. Even the Morgans shown in harness were chosen for flashy action and size. They just need a tail too. Think about how the various breeds BECAME breeds with a registry! However, this change is only for the UK Kennel Club breed standard, so it doesnt affect the American Kennel Clubs regulations. Example of another extreme is the German Shepard. It is a psychopathic level of selfishness to breed dogs like these. I think you mean "Healthy dog agenda". French Bulldogs in dog shows only account for a small portion of Frenchies in the UK. Breeding to standards that lead to injury, pain, health problems, shortened lives is not ethical. Id die to have known this 12 months ago! Anonymous has told the reasons for it above (owners whose pets have died early are more eager to inform others). You can read more about him here . I have seen the effect the show ring can have on the health and working ability of purebred dogs. Its patology. We like to see, in the ADBA a wedge muzzle not just in profile, but also when looking dog on the dogs muzzle. The above clip was all Channel 4 showed of the GSD in the Group judging at Crufts on television tonight. Certain health problems in French bulldogs have been impacted by their huge increase in popularity, and we continue to be extremely concerned that exaggerations which are perceived to create a cute look, said Kennel Club health and welfare expert Bill Lambert in widely publicized statement to UK media. But I don't show my rabbits as I don't care for it. Every FB breeder know that lenght of mouth have nothing to do with breathing broblems, its fact. The HSVMA estimates that half of all French bulldogs demonstrate clinical signs of Brachycephalic Obstructive Airway Syndrome. We are new in this world of Frenchie websites, but we are trying hard. You can see the litter and their pedigree here. But breed standards writers in the UK have decided that those bred with brachycephalic facial features, characterized by a broad, short skull with a flattened nose and folded skin, are not the ideal type. By the time I was riding in local horse shows, Morgans looked pretty much like the American Saddlebred in the show ring--taller, longer legs, flashy gaits (with hooves grown longer and shod for high action, not quite as extreme as the Tennessee Walkers, but still stressing the legs and feet.) Certain health problems in French Bulldogs have been impacted by their huge increase in popularity, and we continue to be extremely concerned that exaggerations which are perceived to create a cute look or sound, have gradually become seen as normal and even desirable, said Kennel Club health and welfare expert Bill Lambert. A super-rosette winning show dog, who had virtually no will to live, was taken to Germany for surgery, and was among the worst cases of obstructed airways the experts there had ever seen. I embrace the reform as much as I embraced my flat faced lil fuzzy man. They have more nose as the breed used to have (grew up with one in the 1960's). In truth, even Flint's muzzle is too short. Im a new Frenchie owner but have been in the purebred dog world with Amstaffs for many years. Arnie is hypertype. There is nothing at all pit bull like about Flint. A long muzzle that is snipey would be a greyhound or whippet. He walked everywhere with us - even up Snowdon and back. Actually, a long snipey muzzle was never the breed founders intentuons. Nowt so queer as folk. This should be about your dog's well being and not your whims and ignorance. At first, this change might not make a huge impact. Furthermore,I don't care what the breeder "says", the dog on the top right is most definitely mixed with something and a DNA test will surely prove it. The dog on the right is Flint, bred in the Net Ralph Rckert Take a good look into this French Bulldog's eyes. You know, real pit bulls registered pit bull.The head and muzzle are completely different. Absolute, non-sensical garbage spouted by people who haven't one ounce of sense in their heads.

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